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General questions

Got a general question about the Senior Section? Some of the most frequently asked questions are answered here.

Question Who are the Senior Section?
Answer The Senior Section are young women participating in an exciting programme, making decisions for themselves and most of all having fun.  The Senior Section is all about flexibility, with each member choosing an individual programme to suit them.  It is a place where girls aged 14 to 25 can grow and develop on their way to reaching their full potential.
Question At what age can I become a member of the Senior Section?
Answer You can become a member of the Senior Section at 14 and you can remain a Senior Section member until your 26th Birthday.
Question Why can I not be a Senior Section member after 25?
Answer Throughout your life you grow and develop as a person, finding new challenges and activities to take part in and new experiences to share and enjoy. Turning 26 represents a different time in your life, with a requirement for a new set of challenges that the Senior Section is not structured to support. Instead, there are many other roles and opportunities for older members to become involved guiding once they turn 26. Girlguiding UK truly values the membership of our adults aged 26+, as it is through them we are able to provide so many positive experiences for the young people within our movement.
Question Can I work on my Baden-Powell Challenge when I'm a Senior Section member?
Answer No, you need to complete the Baden-Powell Challenge while you are at Guides. The Baden Powell Challenge is written for Guides and can only be completed by Guides. There are lots of other awards and qualifications that you can work towards as a Senior Section member.
Question How do I get involved with a Working Group at CHQ?
Answer Look out for opportunities that may be advertised in guiding magazine or on the website or in the YeSS newsletter. To sign up to receive YeSS visit www.girlguiding.org.uk/seniorsection.
Question Can something I have done at school count towards Look Wider?
Answer

If you have undertaken a challenge/activity as part of an extra-curricular event then it can count towards Look Wider, but if it is something you have done as part of mainstream schooling or lessons then it does not count. Examples include:
• Taking part in a debate on the Rights of a Child as part of the debate club meeting after school on a Wednesday counts towards Look Wider.
• Taking part in a debate on the Rights of a Child as part of Social and Religious Studies does not count towards Look Wider.

Question I am a Senior Section member within one County, but at university in another County. Can the things that I do in my university area count towards my Senior Section guiding at home?
Answer Yes they can! Guiding is a worldwide Movement and artificial boundaries such as District, Division, County, Region and Country borders can all be crossed. Make sure any activities you undertake comply with the rules and guidelines within The Guiding Manual. Make use of the Advisers and supporters within the area in which you are undertaking the activity, as they will be able to help and support you. If you are undertaking activities which will count towards your Queen’s Guide Award, Duke of Edinburgh Award, Look Wider, Camps and Holidays Scheme or Leadership Scheme make sure you talk with your mentor/supporter/Leader first, so they can fully understand what is happening and how you plan to present evidence of the activity or get it signed off.
Question Who should I speak to if I have a problem?
Answer Guiding is fun, and should always be a positive, experience. But sometimes you come across problems or challenges that you can’t solve on your own. If you have a problem there are lots of people you can get help from – other Senior Section members, Leaders, supporters and so on who may have had similar volunteering experiences.
If the problem is about your group it may be worth speaking to someone who isn’t involved to get a different perspective on the situation, for example a Commissioner or an Adviser/Co-ordinator. If you need to speak to a Commissioner, approach your District Commissioner first.
Refer also to The Guiding Manual for any concerns regarding activities and regulations.
Question What’s the difference between a Pack Leader/Rainbow Helper and a Young Leader?
Answer

A Pack Leader is a Guide who volunteers to help out at a Brownie Pack – and still remains an active member of a Guide unit. A Rainbow Helper is a Guide who volunteers to help at a Rainbow unit and still remains an active member of a Guide unit. A Young Leader is a member of the Senior Section who is aged 14–18 and no longer participates as a Guide. She may choose to assist with a Rainbow, Brownie or Guide unit and can take part in any Senior Section opportunities including the Young Leader Qualification and may work on the Adult Leadership Qualification from the age of 16.

Question Can I stay at Guides at the same time as starting to be a Young Leader with another unit?
Answer No – you can only belong to one section at a time.
Question What do I do about a support group if I’m a Young Leader?
Answer

Every area is unique. Your Young Leader Guider may arrange meetings for all of the Young Leaders in her area, or you may wish to join up with your local Senior Section group.

Question The Leader in Charge of my unit wants to leave, there is no one to take over, what should I do?
Answer

This is not your problem – although people might like you to solve it for them! The District/Division Commissioner needs to be involved straight away as she has responsibility for all the units in the local area and will work with you to provide the best solution.
From your perspective, you could think about whether you could take the unit on yourself or whether this is too much. See if there is anyone who can share the job with you, and look at rota systems and job sharing. Ask the girls’ parents if any of them are willing to help at meetings.
Look at your numbers and consider whether it is feasible for you and your girls to join another local unit.
Make sure you look around and consider all the options. Most importantly, don’t feel pressurised into taking over a unit when you’re not ready.

Question I’ve just moved to University and when I tried to register with a unit I was told I wasn’t needed.
Answer While many areas with Universities appreciate and value student Leaders, there are some Leaders who just don’t know what to do with a Leader who can ‘only’ help during university term time. Talk to the local Commissioner and explain what you would be able to offer in terms of commitment and skills. Ask for her help in finding you a unit. Or maybe you could become a District or Division Leader and help out as needed with lots of different units.
You could also consider becoming an In4mer and providing sessions to lots of different units. There is also SSAGO.
Question Is it ok to help with a unit in University and only help in term-time?
Answer Of course! If you are running a group then the terms can be restricted to yours and if there are other Leaders, they can get parents to help when you are not there.
Question I can’t commit to weekly meetings, can I still be involved in guiding?
Answer

Certainly. You can help at a District/Division level at meetings and fun days and outings, and you can be registered at this level to help out with units when they are short of adult help. You can become an In4mer and provide peer education sessions to groups as and when they are required. You can also become an Adviser/Co-ordinator, Commissioner or mentor, or take on an administrative role, as those don’t require you to commit to weekly meetings. You can also help at campsites and Training Centres, which often need people to help with events.

Question Since moving to a new area I’ve been made to do Rainbows when I’d really like to do Guides or Brownies.
Answer Talk to your Commissioner and tell her how you feel, they may just have needed help in Rainbows and not in the other sections. See if there is anyone who you can swap with.
Question I want to take my Guides away this summer and take my Camp Licence but my local Adviser doesn’t think I’m ready.
Answer Sit down either with her, or someone else who knows you well, and talk through all the experiences of camp that you have already and discuss whether this is enough to do your Licence or whether a practice would be better. Remember, while it is your Permit or Licence test, you’re not alone – discuss with others to see who could help you with planning activities and so on so that jobs are shared.
Question As a Young Leader I am prevented because of my age from attending adult trainings and I find it very hard to see where I fit in.
Answer

Some counties allow you to attend adult trainings from 16, so it is worth finding out the rules in your area. Talk to your Unit Leader or Young Leader Guider and explain what trainings you would like to do and why. Then look at the different options open to you – for example, attending a training session at a Training and Activities Centre; going to specific Young Leader Training Day (maybe in a different District, Division, County or Region); organising a local training just for Young Leaders and Leaders in your local area (sometimes known as a fireside training); one-to-one trainings. Look around as well for training provided by other organisations such as Scouts, Red Cross, and so on.

Question As a Leader in charge who do I get to sign my book for my Duke of Edinburgh Gold service?
Answer Your Assistant Leader or Local Commissioner.
Question I believe my Gold Duke of Edinburgh expedition will count as my Queen’s Guide expedition – is this right?
Answer You can use the same expedition for both Queen’s Guide and Duke of Edinburgh’ Awards, providing you make sure you comply with all the requirements of both schemes and all the assessors involved are aware that you are counting it for both awards. Make sure you have completed Element 1 of the Outdoor Challenge for Queen’s Guide before you undertake the expedition – you cannot go back and complete it afterwards. Also, make sure that any activities you have planned during your expedition are carried out in accordance to the rules and regulations laid out in The Guiding Manual. Your Queen’s Guide mentor will also be able to provide you with help and advice.

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